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"those who sleep in Jesus,"
 
 
:them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.


deceased Christians,  
deceased Christians,  


are brought back to life at his return [[rapture]]
"are brought back to life at his return" [[rapture]]
 
[[1 Thessalonians 4]]
 
:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout,
 
:with the voice of the archangel,
 
:and with the trump of God:
 
:and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
 
:17 Then we which are alive and remain
 
:shall be caught up together with them in the clouds,
 
:to meet the Lord in the air:
 
:and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
 
:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
 
 
 


[[1 Thessalonians 4]].16


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He will come again to the Mount of Olives with these saints  
He will come again to the Mount of Olives with these saints  


[[Acts 1]].9-12
[[Acts 1]]
 
:9 And when he had spoken these things,
 
:while they beheld, he was taken up;
 
:and a cloud received him out of their sight.
 
:10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up,
 
:behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
 
:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee,
 
:why stand ye gazing up into heaven?
 
:this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven,
 
:shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
 
:12 Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet,
 
:which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day’s journey.
 
 
 
[[Zechariah 14]]
 
:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh,
 
:and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
 
:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle;
 
:and the city shall be taken,
 
:and the houses rifled,
 
:and the women ravished;
 
:and half of the city shall go forth into captivity,
 
:and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
 
 
 
:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations,
 
:as when he fought in the day of battle.
 
 
 
:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives,
 
:which is before Jerusalem on the east,
 
:and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof
 
:toward the east and toward the west,
 
:and there shall be a very great valley;
 
:and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north,
 
:and half of it toward the south.
 
:5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains;
 
:for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal:
 
:yea, ye shall flee,
 
:like as ye fled from before the earthquake
 
:in the days of Uzziah king of Judah:
 
:and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
 
 
 


[[Zechariah 14]].1-5


The tribulation saints are raised
The tribulation saints are raised
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and is part of the [[first resurrection]]
and is part of the [[first resurrection]]


[[Revelation 8]].1
[[Revelation 8]] -------------- ?
 
:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal,
 
:there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
 
 
 
[[Revelation 9]]
 
:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries,
 
:nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.


[[Revelation 9]].21


[[Revelation 11]].15-18
[[Revelation 11]].15-18
:15 And the seventh angel sounded;
:and there were great voices in heaven, saying,
:The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord,
:and of his Christ;
:and he shall reign for ever and ever.
:16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats,
:fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
:17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty,
:which art, and wast, and art to come;
:because thou hast taken to thee thy great power,
:and hast reigned.
:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come,
:and the time of the dead, that they should be judged,
:and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets,
:and to the saints,
:and them that fear thy name, small and great;
:and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.




[[1 Corinthians 15]].51-52
[[1 Corinthians 15]].51-52
:51 Behold, I show you a mystery;
:We shall not all sleep,
:but we shall all be changed,
:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump:
:for the trumpet shall sound,
:and the dead shall be raised incorruptible,
:and we shall be changed.


[[1 Thessalonians 4]].16-17
[[1 Thessalonians 4]].16-17
:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout,
:with the voice of the archangel,
:and with the trump of God:
:and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
:17 Then we which are alive and remain
:shall be caught up together with them in the clouds,
:to meet the Lord in the air:
:and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.




[[Matthew 24]].30-31
[[Matthew 24]].30-31
:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven:
:and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn,
:and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven
:with power and great glory.
:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet,
:and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds,
:from one end of heaven to the other.
=[===[[==========
:After meeting Christ in the atmosphere above the earth,
:the Saints will descend to the earth
==========WRONG
[[Zechariah 14]].4-5
[[Revelation 20]]
[[1 Corinthians 15]]
[[Mark 13]].24 - 27
:24 But in those days, after that tribulation,
:the sun shall be darkened,
:and the moon shall not give her light,
:25 And the stars of heaven shall fall,
:and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
:26 And then shall they see
:the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
:27 And then shall he send his angels,
:and shall gather together his elect from the four winds,
:from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.
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mercifully be put out of their misery forever ============= WRONG
torment forever
[[Matthew 16]]
:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels;
:and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
[[Revelation 22]]
:12 And, behold, I come quickly;
:and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
[[Daniel 12]]
:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up,
:the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people:
:and there shall be a time of trouble,
:such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time:
:and at that time thy people shall be delivered,
:every one that shall be found written in the book.
:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake,
:some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament;
:and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
[[John 5]]
:28 Marvel not at this:
:for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
:29 And shall come forth;
:they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life;
:and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
[[Luke 20]].34 - 36,
:34 And Jesus answering said unto them,
:The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
:35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world,
:and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
:36 Neither can they die any more:
:for they are equal unto the angels;
:and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
:34 And Jesus answering said unto them,
:The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
:35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world,
:and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
:36 Neither can they die any more:
:for they are equal unto the angels;
:and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
[[1 Corinthians 15]].52 - 55
:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump:
:for the trumpet shall sound,
:and the dead shall be raised incorruptible,
:and we shall be changed.
:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption,
:and this mortal must put on immortality.
:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption,
:and this mortal shall have put on immortality,
:then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written,
:Death is swallowed up in victory.
:55 O death, where is thy sting?
:O grave, where is thy victory?
:56 The sting of death is sin;
:and the strength of sin is the law.
:57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.




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Latest revision as of 09:27, 30 November 2021


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those who die faithful to God

========== WRONG

those dead saints

first resurrection



them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

deceased Christians,

"are brought back to life at his return" rapture

1 Thessalonians 4

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout,
with the voice of the archangel,
and with the trump of God:
and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain
shall be caught up together with them in the clouds,
to meet the Lord in the air:
and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.



==========+ After the first resurrection ============= WRONG

The first resurrection is in three parts.

It is completed after the tribulation

He will come again to the Mount of Olives with these saints

Acts 1

9 And when he had spoken these things,
while they beheld, he was taken up;
and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up,
behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee,
why stand ye gazing up into heaven?
this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven,
shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
12 Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet,
which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day’s journey.


Zechariah 14

1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh,
and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle;
and the city shall be taken,
and the houses rifled,
and the women ravished;
and half of the city shall go forth into captivity,
and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.


3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations,
as when he fought in the day of battle.


4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives,
which is before Jerusalem on the east,
and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof
toward the east and toward the west,
and there shall be a very great valley;
and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north,
and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains;
for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal:
yea, ye shall flee,
like as ye fled from before the earthquake
in the days of Uzziah king of Judah:
and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.



The tribulation saints are raised

and is part of the first resurrection

Revelation 8 -------------- ?

1 And when he had opened the seventh seal,
there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.


Revelation 9

21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries,
nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.


Revelation 11.15-18

15 And the seventh angel sounded;
and there were great voices in heaven, saying,
The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord,
and of his Christ;
and he shall reign for ever and ever.
16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats,
fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty,
which art, and wast, and art to come;
because thou hast taken to thee thy great power,
and hast reigned.
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come,
and the time of the dead, that they should be judged,
and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets,
and to the saints,
and them that fear thy name, small and great;
and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.



1 Corinthians 15.51-52

51 Behold, I show you a mystery;
We shall not all sleep,
but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump:
for the trumpet shall sound,
and the dead shall be raised incorruptible,
and we shall be changed.



1 Thessalonians 4.16-17

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout,
with the voice of the archangel,
and with the trump of God:
and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain
shall be caught up together with them in the clouds,
to meet the Lord in the air:
and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.



Matthew 24.30-31

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven:
and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn,
and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven
with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet,
and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds,
from one end of heaven to the other.




[===[[=========

After meeting Christ in the atmosphere above the earth,
the Saints will descend to the earth

==========WRONG

Zechariah 14.4-5

Revelation 20


1 Corinthians 15


Mark 13.24 - 27

24 But in those days, after that tribulation,
the sun shall be darkened,
and the moon shall not give her light,
25 And the stars of heaven shall fall,
and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
26 And then shall they see
the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
27 And then shall he send his angels,
and shall gather together his elect from the four winds,
from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.



====

mercifully be put out of their misery forever ============= WRONG

torment forever




Matthew 16

27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels;
and then he shall reward every man according to his works.


Revelation 22

12 And, behold, I come quickly;
and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.



Daniel 12

1 And at that time shall Michael stand up,
the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people:
and there shall be a time of trouble,
such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time:
and at that time thy people shall be delivered,
every one that shall be found written in the book.
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake,
some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament;
and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.



John 5

28 Marvel not at this:
for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth;
they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life;
and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.



Luke 20.34 - 36,

34 And Jesus answering said unto them,
The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world,
and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36 Neither can they die any more:
for they are equal unto the angels;
and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
34 And Jesus answering said unto them,
The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world,
and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36 Neither can they die any more:
for they are equal unto the angels;
and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.



1 Corinthians 15.52 - 55

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump:
for the trumpet shall sound,
and the dead shall be raised incorruptible,
and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption,
and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption,
and this mortal shall have put on immortality,
then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written,
Death is swallowed up in victory.
55 O death, where is thy sting?
O grave, where is thy victory?
56 The sting of death is sin;
and the strength of sin is the law.
57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.


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