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We need to look at Bible passages
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One view is that the '''[[last trump]]''' of [[1 Corinthians 15.52]]


and allow the Holy Spirit
must be identical to the seventh of the seven trumpets in [[Revelation 11.15]].


to show us what to believe
Here are some differences between the two trumpets.


:The trumpet of the [[church age]] is called the "[[trump of God]]" [[1 Thessalonians 4.16]].


pre - [[Tribulation]] - - [[Rapture]]
:The trumpet of Revelation is the trumpet of the seventh angel [[Revelation 11.15]].


:The trumpet of the [[church age]] is singular.


:There is no mention of a series of trumpets.


the timing of the [[Rapture]]
:The trumpet of Revelation is the seventh of seven.


with respect to the Revelation’s trumpet judgments
The phrase, '''last trump''', has a different significance


In [[1 Thessalonians 4]], the trumpets calls the dead to life.


The seventh trumpet of Revelation occurs after a resurrection occurs [[Revelation 11.12]].


The trumpet of the [[church age]] comes as a blessing.


Christ’s coming for Israel
The trumpet of Revelation comes with judgment and is called the [[third woe]] [[Revelation 11.14]].


the Second Coming
The trump of the [[church age]] sounds in "a moment, in the twinkling of an eye" [[1 Corinthians 15.52]].


The seventh trumpet of Revelation sounds for "days" [[Revelation 10.7]].


Simply put, there is no real connection between the "last trump" and the seventh trumpet.




In [[Numbers 10.1]]-10, the Lord gives Moses the laws concerning the use of trumpets.


They were used to call the assembly together,


The Apostle Paul wrote two epistles
to announce the time to begin their journeying,


[[1 Thessalonians]] and [[2 Thessalonians]]
to go to war, and other various purposes.


[[Numbers 10.5]]-6 tell of the use of the trumpets to command the Israelites


to remind both them and us
to go forward when they were to take their journeys in the wilderness.


that the Rapture will occur before the seven-year Tribulation
These verses mention that the camps on the east side go first


(just as Paul had told them in person some time earlier; )
and the camps on the south side go second.


The other camps are not mentioned here, but they are mentioned in [[Numbers 2]]


[[2 Thessalonians 2]]
all of the tribes of Israel are placed around the tabernacle in four camps.


:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you,
The order given is east first, south second, Levites and the tabernacle third,  


:I told you these things?
west fourth, and north last.


The first camps of [[Numbers 2]] match the two camps mentioned in [[Numbers 10.5]]-6.


The [[Numbers 10.5]]-6 passage is obviously an abbreviation


[[1 Thessalonians 5]].9
for the calling of all the camps to go forward.


:9 For '''God hath not appointed us to wrath''',
Although the phrase, last trump, is not mentioned in Numbers,  


:but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
the trumpet that sounded to call the last camp (the north camp) to go forward


would be the last trump.


The last trump indicated that the entire congregation was now on the move.




Just as the last trumpet call in the wilderness meant


[[1 Thessalonians 1]]
that the entire congregation was on the move,


:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven,
so the last trump at the time of the [[rapture]] will indicate


:whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus,
that all of the saints are called up:
 
:'''which delivered us from the wrath to come'''.
 
 
 
[[Romans 5]]
 
:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood,
 
:'''we shall be saved from wrath through him'''.
 
 
 
We in Christ will never face any of God’s wrath
 
hell, the lake of fire,
 
or the seven-year [[Tribulation]]
 
because Jesus Christ already suffered God’s wrath on our behalf.
 
 
It is that simple.
 
The Apostle wrote to the Thessalonians to reassure them
 
that they were not living in those horrible seven years.
 
See, there was confusion
 
regarding the timing of the [[Rapture]], nearly 20 centuries ago.


both the living and the dead [[1 Thessalonians 4.15]]-16




Latest revision as of 19:46, 19 February 2024

One view is that the last trump of 1 Corinthians 15.52

must be identical to the seventh of the seven trumpets in Revelation 11.15.


Here are some differences between the two trumpets.

The trumpet of the church age is called the "trump of God" 1 Thessalonians 4.16.
The trumpet of Revelation is the trumpet of the seventh angel Revelation 11.15.
The trumpet of the church age is singular.
There is no mention of a series of trumpets.
The trumpet of Revelation is the seventh of seven.

The phrase, last trump, has a different significance

In 1 Thessalonians 4, the trumpets calls the dead to life.

The seventh trumpet of Revelation occurs after a resurrection occurs Revelation 11.12.

The trumpet of the church age comes as a blessing.

The trumpet of Revelation comes with judgment and is called the third woe Revelation 11.14.

The trump of the church age sounds in "a moment, in the twinkling of an eye" 1 Corinthians 15.52.

The seventh trumpet of Revelation sounds for "days" Revelation 10.7.

Simply put, there is no real connection between the "last trump" and the seventh trumpet.


In Numbers 10.1-10, the Lord gives Moses the laws concerning the use of trumpets.

They were used to call the assembly together,

to announce the time to begin their journeying,

to go to war, and other various purposes.

Numbers 10.5-6 tell of the use of the trumpets to command the Israelites

to go forward when they were to take their journeys in the wilderness.

These verses mention that the camps on the east side go first

and the camps on the south side go second.

The other camps are not mentioned here, but they are mentioned in Numbers 2

all of the tribes of Israel are placed around the tabernacle in four camps.

The order given is east first, south second, Levites and the tabernacle third,

west fourth, and north last.

The first camps of Numbers 2 match the two camps mentioned in Numbers 10.5-6.

The Numbers 10.5-6 passage is obviously an abbreviation

for the calling of all the camps to go forward.

Although the phrase, last trump, is not mentioned in Numbers,

the trumpet that sounded to call the last camp (the north camp) to go forward

would be the last trump.

The last trump indicated that the entire congregation was now on the move.


Just as the last trumpet call in the wilderness meant

that the entire congregation was on the move,

so the last trump at the time of the rapture will indicate

that all of the saints are called up:

both the living and the dead 1 Thessalonians 4.15-16



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