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We need to look at Bible passages
One view is that the '''[[last trump]]''' of [[1 Corinthians 15.52]]


and allow the Holy Spirit
must be identical to the seventh of the seven trumpets in [[Revelation 11.15]].


to show us what to believe
Here are some differences between the two trumpets.


:The trumpet of the [[church age]] is called the "[[trump of God]]" [[1 Thessalonians 4.16]].


pre - [[Tribulation]] - - [[Rapture]]
:The trumpet of Revelation is the trumpet of the seventh angel [[Revelation 11.15]].


:The trumpet of the [[church age]] is singular.


:trump of God
:There is no mention of a series of trumpets.


:The trumpet of Revelation is the seventh of seven.


The phrase, '''last trump''', has a different significance


the timing of the [[Rapture]]  
In [1 Thessalonians 4]], the trumpets calls the dead to life.


with respect to the Revelation’s trumpet judgments
The seventh trumpet of Revelation occurs after a resurrection occurs [[Revelation 11.12]].


The trumpet of the [[church age]] comes as a blessing.


The trumpet of Revelation comes with judgment and is called the [[third woe]] [[Revelation 11.14]].


The trump of the [[church age]] sounds in "a moment, in the twinkling of an eye" [[1 Corinthians 15.52]].


Christ’s coming for Israel
The seventh trumpet of Revelation sounds for "days" [[Revelation 10.7]].


the Second Coming
Simply put, there is no real connection between the "last trump" and the seventh trumpet.




In [[Numbers 10.1]]-10, the Lord gives Moses the laws concerning the use of trumpets.


They were used to call the assembly together,


to announce the time to begin their journeying,


to go to war, and other various purposes.


The Apostle Paul wrote two epistles
[[Numbers 10.5]]-6 tell of the use of the trumpets to command the Israelites


[[1 Thessalonians]] and  [[2 Thessalonians]]
to go forward when they were to take their journeys in the wilderness.


These verses mention that the camps on the east side go first


to remind both them and us
and the camps on the south side go second.


that the Rapture will occur before the seven-year Tribulation
The other camps are not mentioned here, but they are mentioned in [[Numbers 2]]


(just as Paul had told them in person some time earlier; )
all of the tribes of Israel are placed around the tabernacle in four camps.


The order given is east first, south second, Levites and the tabernacle third,


[[2 Thessalonians 2]]
west fourth, and north last.


:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you,
The first camps of [[Numbers 2]] match the two camps mentioned in [[Numbers 10.5]]-6.


:I told you these things?
The [[Numbers 10.5]]-6 passage is obviously an abbreviation


for the calling of all the camps to go forward.


Although the phrase, last trump, is not mentioned in Numbers,


[[1 Thessalonians 5]].9
the trumpet that sounded to call the last camp (the north camp) to go forward


:9 For '''God hath not appointed us to wrath''',
would be the last trump.


:but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
The last trump indicated that the entire congregation was now on the move.




Just as the last trumpet call in the wilderness meant


that the entire congregation was on the move,


so the last trump at the time of the rapture will indicate


[[1 Thessalonians 1]]
that all of the saints are called up:
 
:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven,
 
:whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus,
 
:'''which delivered us from the wrath to come'''.
 
 
 
[[Romans 5]]
 
:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood,
 
:'''we shall be saved from wrath through him'''.
 
 
 
We in Christ will never face any of God’s wrath
 
hell, the lake of fire,
 
or the seven-year [[Tribulation]]
 
because Jesus Christ already suffered God’s wrath on our behalf.
 
 
It is that simple.
 
The Apostle wrote to the Thessalonians to reassure them
 
that they were not living in those horrible seven years.
 
See, there was confusion
 
regarding the timing of the [[Rapture]], nearly 20 centuries ago.


both the living and the dead [[1 Thessalonians 4.15]]-16




Revision as of 16:41, 18 February 2024

One view is that the last trump of 1 Corinthians 15.52

must be identical to the seventh of the seven trumpets in Revelation 11.15.


Here are some differences between the two trumpets.

The trumpet of the church age is called the "trump of God" 1 Thessalonians 4.16.
The trumpet of Revelation is the trumpet of the seventh angel Revelation 11.15.
The trumpet of the church age is singular.
There is no mention of a series of trumpets.
The trumpet of Revelation is the seventh of seven.

The phrase, last trump, has a different significance

In [1 Thessalonians 4]], the trumpets calls the dead to life.

The seventh trumpet of Revelation occurs after a resurrection occurs Revelation 11.12.

The trumpet of the church age comes as a blessing.

The trumpet of Revelation comes with judgment and is called the third woe Revelation 11.14.

The trump of the church age sounds in "a moment, in the twinkling of an eye" 1 Corinthians 15.52.

The seventh trumpet of Revelation sounds for "days" Revelation 10.7.

Simply put, there is no real connection between the "last trump" and the seventh trumpet.


In Numbers 10.1-10, the Lord gives Moses the laws concerning the use of trumpets.

They were used to call the assembly together,

to announce the time to begin their journeying,

to go to war, and other various purposes.

Numbers 10.5-6 tell of the use of the trumpets to command the Israelites

to go forward when they were to take their journeys in the wilderness.

These verses mention that the camps on the east side go first

and the camps on the south side go second.

The other camps are not mentioned here, but they are mentioned in Numbers 2

all of the tribes of Israel are placed around the tabernacle in four camps.

The order given is east first, south second, Levites and the tabernacle third,

west fourth, and north last.

The first camps of Numbers 2 match the two camps mentioned in Numbers 10.5-6.

The Numbers 10.5-6 passage is obviously an abbreviation

for the calling of all the camps to go forward.

Although the phrase, last trump, is not mentioned in Numbers,

the trumpet that sounded to call the last camp (the north camp) to go forward

would be the last trump.

The last trump indicated that the entire congregation was now on the move.


Just as the last trumpet call in the wilderness meant

that the entire congregation was on the move,

so the last trump at the time of the rapture will indicate

that all of the saints are called up:

both the living and the dead 1 Thessalonians 4.15-16



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